Posts by Jon Preston

"Jehovah’s Witnesses, and some others, believe that humans did not eat meat until after the flood. So, for approximately 1,600 years from creation to the flood, humans were vegetarians. They did not begin eating meat until this privilege was granted to humans in Genesis 9:3. In fact, Jehovah’s Witnesses go one step further. They believe that even animals were vegetarians until after the flood. They believe that grass is the natural, god-intended food for lions. Fossils of carnivorous dinosaurs are rather troublesome to them, so they ignore them.

This creates an interesting problem in the Cain and Abel story. As you recall, Abel was a shepherd. Now, don’t forget that there are only four people on the planet. Acquisition of food must have been their top priority.

So, the question arises, if they didn’t eat meat, what was Abel doing with all those sheep? Either he was a huge slacker (imagine 25% of the planetary labour force piddling around with their pets when they should be working), or he had some other purpose for them. Don’t forget that there were no women, other than their mother. I will say no more.

CAIN THE FARMER

Again, remember that there were only four people on the earth (OK, it’s possible that maybe there were some other, unmentioned children at this time, but certainly not more than a handful, which doesn’t materially change our story).

Now, we know that civilization goes through various phases of development. It begins with hunter/gatherer, then progresses to nomadic, agricultural, and finally, urban. Cain seems to have progressed straight to agricultural, which is more than a little strange. The Hebrew nation at the time of Abraham, 2,500 years later, was still in the nomadic phase. They must have moved backwards.

To top it off, at the end of the story, Cain built a city. So, Civilization appears to have developed at lightening speed. "

I found this quite eye-opening and damning to the real existence of the Caun and Abel story....whatcha think?

I must give credit to Fred Titanich for this information . For more see "The Atheist Book of Bible Stories"

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Soldiers of Jah

by cofty in

i would like to propose an ethical dilemma for those who believe in the divine inspiration of the bible.. in the following scenarios i am not asking you what you would have done but rather, what you hope you would have had the courage to do.. scenario 1. you are camped on the east side of the jordan waiting for orders to cross into the promised land.

moses is nearing the end of his life but he has some unfinished business to take care of before he hands over to joshua.

he announces that he has had an instruction from god to take revenge on the midianites before he dies.

Jon Preston

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Memorial Musings

by undercover in

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a few things noticed in last nights annual, jesus who?

gathering:.

1: only one scripture from the gospels was read or cited.

Jon Preston

Like Terry says in his book: Once a year Jehovahs Witnesses gather to NOT take communion lol

i missed the scripture where millions of people should just watch as anointed partake...in fact, i miss ANY reference to this second class of Christians anywhere in the Gospel...Funny, surely if they made up the majority of the "earthly organization" Jesus would certainly have been compelled to mention it, as it would otherwise create divisions and confusion among his followers...hm

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Just noticed something else that proves the Bible is made up.

by BU2B in

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exodus 9 then the lord said to moses, go to pharaoh and say to him, this is what the lord, the god of the hebrews, says: let my people go, so that they may worship me.

2if you refuse to let them go and continue to hold them back, 3the hand of the lord will bring a terrible plague on your livestock in the fieldon your horses, donkeys and camels and on your cattle, sheep and goats.

4but the lord will make a distinction between the livestock of israel and that of egypt, so that no animal belonging to the israelites will die.?.

Jon Preston

I meant 9-12:29 sorry

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Just noticed something else that proves the Bible is made up.

by BU2B in

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exodus 9 then the lord said to moses, go to pharaoh and say to him, this is what the lord, the god of the hebrews, says: let my people go, so that they may worship me.

2if you refuse to let them go and continue to hold them back, 3the hand of the lord will bring a terrible plague on your livestock in the fieldon your horses, donkeys and camels and on your cattle, sheep and goats.

4but the lord will make a distinction between the livestock of israel and that of egypt, so that no animal belonging to the israelites will die.?.

Jon Preston

Well its a long way from verse 9-29 maybe theres a time gap!!!!! Maybe the livestock had some second first borns lol....

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How isnt anyone connecting the dots?!?! Ugh memorial.

by Jon Preston in

tonight the talk was given and he speaker talks about the two hopes, i roll my eyes.

then he talks about how the evening meal is onky for the elite 144,000. i think to myself "why the hell does paul say in 1 corinthians 11 when hes referring tothe entire corinthians congregation (right?

) that they should do it in remembernce of christ?

Jon Preston

lol good point. I DID smile at one point when my 4 year old goes "why arent we going to eat" really loud haha...whats the sayng? "out of the mouth of babes"

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A point which virtually every JW will miss in this week's book study

by sir82 in

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from this week's book study, the "draw close to jehovah" book, chapter 5:.

biologists have identified well over a million species of living things on earth; yet, opinions vary as to whether there may be as many as 10 million, 30 million, or more.. .

wow!

Jon Preston

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